The theory “Jaime and Cersei are Secret Targs” was based on the idea that Cersei and Jaime were conceived when Aerys allegedly raped Joanna while taking “liberties” at the bedding on Tywin and Joanna’s wedding night in 263 AC.
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But even if Aerys HAD raped Joanna while taking “liberties” in 263, it’s not physically possible for Jaime and Cersei to have been conceived on Tywin’s wedding night in 263. Jaime and Cersei were born in 266 AC at Casterly Rock. Joanna was not at court; she had been dismissed immediately after “liberties” because Rhaella thought of her as a “whore” and victim-blamed her. (Click here for relevant quotes.) Joanna was not in contact with Aerys again until they moved the court to Casterly Rock for a year in 267 AC, which was after Jaime and Cersei were born.
ATUALIZAÇÃO: Usuário do Tumblr joannalannister escreve isso sobre Tyrion ser um Targaryen (como resultado de Joanna Lannister ter sido estuprada por Aerys):
I am certain Tywin would not continue to serve the man who raped his wife, regardless of what Aerys wanted. Tywin resigned over Jaime being taken from him; he would have resigned over Joanna being raped. I feel very confident in saying that.
Há muito mais em seu post, embora deva ser notado que atualmente não há nenhuma evidência para definitivamente descartar qualquer coisa. Mas para mim, parece ser um caso de GRRM vasculhando seus leitores; como ela diz:
Saving the world is not limited to Targaryens, secret or otherwise.
UPDATE 2: Parece influente blogueiro da ASoIaF Sean T. Collins está agora a bordo com" Tyrion Targaryen " depois de ler O Mundo do Gelo e do Fogo . E ele não seem para ser corrico seus leitores .
Acabei de começar a ler TWoIaF, então não sei quais "evidências" ele encontrou; Vou tentar atualizar minha resposta assim que chegar a essa parte do livro.)
ATUALIZAÇÃO 3: Elio M. García Jr. e Linda Antonsson, co-autores de O Mundo do Gelo e do Fogo , falaram no podcast de gelo e fogo sobre esse assunto :
They point out that the new book pretty much flat-out debunks the idea that Aerys is secretly Jaime & Cersei’s real father. That’s a theory I never thought cut any ice anyway, but they’re right, the timeline doesn’t work in any way. With a surprisingly vocal degree of regret, however, they also point out that it doesn’t debunk the idea that Aerys is secretly Tyrion's father. Interestingly, they're on the side of the many, many detractors of this theory here on tumblr — they don't like it at all. Elio said something to the effect of “You know, it's George's story, if that's where he wants to take it that's fine, but…” and he and Linda went on to voice some of the same objections I've seen here, off the top of my head the idea that it undermines the weight of the similarities between Tywin and Tyrion, and that this might be one secret Targaryen/Blackfyre too many. The whole conversation is interesting insofar as if they'd had any inside information about the truth of the matter, they surely wouldn't have brought it up at all, and they dislike the idea enough to say so publicly even though by their own admission it's entirely possible their own co-author is headed in exactly that direction.
Em conclusão: muito provavelmente só saberemos com certeza após a publicação do último livro da série A Canção de Gelo e Fogo .
ATUALIZAÇÃO 4: Li as passagens relevantes em TWoIaF, e parece-me que não há realmente nenhuma razão para supor que Cersei e Jaime sejam Targaryens. No entanto, as origens de Tyrion parecem ser deliberadamente vagas. Não há relato sobre a roupa de cama de Aerys II Targaryen, Joanna Lannister, mas ele a cobiçara, embora aparentemente não tivesse consumido essa relação antes de seu casamento com Tywin.
Eu vejo que é totalmente possível que ele tenha abusado dela no Torneio de Aniversário de 272 AC, realizado para comemorar o décimo ano de Aerys no Trono de Ferro, especialmente considerando seus comentários sujos em relação a ela (ele perguntou a ela se seus seios, que eram tão altos e orgulhosos ”. Tywin tentou devolver sua cadeia de funções na manhã seguinte, mas o rei se recusou a aceitar sua renúncia.Não há "datas exatas", mas acho que é um pouco coincidência que ela tenha dado à luz Tyrion em 273 AC e que algumas das descrições coincidam com as descrições dos abortos sofridos pela esposa de Aerys:
a malformed, dwarfish babe born with stunted legs, an oversized head, and mismatched, demonic eyes (some reports also suggested he had a tail, which was lopped off at his lord father’s command)
Depois, há também o ciúme de Aerys, WRT Tywin, tendo gêmeos lindos:
“I appear to have married the wrong woman.”
Há a insistência dele de que Tywin leve eles e a mãe deles ao tribunal:
“And bring their mother, too, for it has been too long since I gazed upon that fair face.”
E há o seu pronunciamento após o nascimento de Tyrion:
“The gods cannot abide such arrogance. They have plucked a fair flower from his hand and given him a monster in her place, to teach him some humility at last.”
Nada disso é evidência, é claro.