As Mines Perdidas do Young Green Dragon de Phandelver são demais para um grupo de personagens de nível 3?

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Um grupo de assassinos errantes que, sem provocação, atacam um ser senciente inteligente merece o que eles recebem. Isto é especialmente assim desde o início do módulo:

There is an evil Red Wizard of Thay who the party is expected to deal with in a non-violent fashion.

Existem várias maneiras de o grupo interagir com o dragão em benefício mútuo, embora não sem risco. Do Livro dos Monstros, p.95 (minha ênfase):

The most cunning and treacherous of true dragons, green dragons use misdirection and trickery to get the upper hand against their enemies. Nasty tempered and thoroughly evil, they take special pleasure in subverting and corrupting the good-hearted. In the ancient forests they roam, green dragons demonstrate an aggression that is often less about territory than it is about gaining power and wealth with as little effort as possible.

Green dragons are consummate liars and masters of double talk. They favor intimidation of lesser creatures, but employ more subtle manipulations when dealing with other dragons. A green dragon attacks animals and monsters with no provocation, especially when dealing with potential threats to its territory. When dealing with sentient creatures, a green dragon demonstrates a lust for power that rivals its draconic desire for treasure, and it is always on the lookout for creatures that can help it further its ambitions.

A green dragon stalks its victims as it plans its assault, sometimes shadowing creatures for days. If a target is weak, the dragon enjoys the terror its appearance evokes before it attacks. It never slays all its foes, preferring to use intimidation to establish control over survivors. It then learns what it can about other creatures' activities near its territory, and about any treasure to be found nearby. Green dragons occasionally release prisoners if they can be ransomed. Otherwise, a creature must prove its value to the dragon daily or die.

Existem muitas alavancas aqui que uma parte socialmente competente pode manipular. A festa pode dar a este dragão o que ele quer, então eles estão em posição de fazer um acordo.

Mesmo se a situação se deteriorar para a violência, é improvável que ela resulte em um TPK, já que dragões verdes não fazem isso! No pior dos casos, ele mata um ou dois, captura o máximo possível e assustar o resto. As oportunidades de aventuras em ser prisioneiro / escravo de um dragão verde e ter que convencê-lo do seu valor todos os dias são enormes!

Ah, e o Phandelver é deliberadamente configurado como uma campanha sandbox - seus jogadores devem saber, porque você diz a eles , que nesse tipo de campanha eles vão encontrar coisas que eles não podem matar e isso os matará. A resposta apropriada para ouvir ou encontrar sinais de um dragão é ir para outro lugar!

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Even with 8 characters and the preponderance of possible turns before the dragon goes, with where the encounter kicks off this has a strong statistical chance of being a total party kill; I'd give it a 85% confidence level. Clustering into the tower is through a narrow door, making the dragon's breath weapon on the first turn a strong choice if he is played fairly. At level 3, their hit points would be too low to survive an average breath attack, and they don't have the damage per round to get the dragon to half health.

Justificação.

The tower that Venomfang has made his lair is a 30' diameter cylinder, with an attached ante chamber that is 20' by 20' that is attached by a medium door way. His size category is Large, occupying a 10' by 10' square; the Medium size category players can't move through, or stop in, the area he controls. If they come through the door, the most they can fit in the tower is 4-5 PC's, the others in the outer room. From the module:

Venomfang does not want to give up such a promising lair, but if the characters reduce the dragon to half its hit points, it climbs to the top of the tower and flies off to fight another day.

This suggests that the Venomfang fight will occur within the lair. This belief leans on the understanding that the dragon, as an intelligent creature, will maximize his advantages if a fight ensues. Meeting the PC in combat outside of the tower is a strategic mistake; the bottleneck of the door makes the breath weapon more effective.

Dito isso, há maneiras de sair desse dilema.

Have the dragon not be there, and use the druid NPC to warn off the party in an insulting haughty fashion. Recommend they come back after a time, with an offered reward beyond what the book provides. This will remove the chance of killing the party half way through the scripted adventure, and leaving some content for the later half.

Or, have the dragon make a bad choice and leave the tower, if the players can effectively coax him out.

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When my party engaged the dragon, it was after the climactic battle with the books end boss, so we had the Spider Staff. The party was five strong at level 5, with a Light Domain Cleric, Fighter, Totem Barbarian, Rogue, and Sorcerer. A character Wall walked up the wall to secure a rope for others to climb after, and we attacked from above. Additionally, Web was used to trap the dragon in the tower, allowing the party to beat him past half health and into his grave, with advantage because he was restrained.

Primeiro, os números

Um grupo de 8 aventureiros de 3º nível tem um limiar de XP estimado de 600, 1200, 1800 e 3200 para um encontro Fácil, Médio, Difícil e Mortal.

Um Jovem Dragão Verde tem um valor de EXP de 3900, que é Mortal. Mas! lembre-se, você tem que contar com mais do que a contagem de jogadores recomendados de 4-6. O DMG vai dizer:

Party Size

... If the party contains six or more characters, use the next lowest multiplier on the table. Use a multiplier of 0.5 for a single monster.

Portanto, para um grupo de 3 a 6 aventureiros, o Jovem Dragão Verde seria, teoricamente, mortal. Mas para um grupo de 8, é apenas Hard. Como você, eu tenho o DMed LMoP para um grupo com mais do que os jogadores recomendados. Eu tinha 9 jogadores lutando contra o Dragão na época, e foi brutal (dois deles ficaram inconscientes, e seu Burro morreu - pobre Will Smith), mas eles conseguiram.