Katniss descreve o manuseio correto de um arco?

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Nos filmes dos Jogos Vorazes, Katniss usa um arco como sua arma primária. Não considerando seus tiros reais (atingindo seus alvos), Katniss mostra como usar, segurar e manusear corretamente um arco? Será que Jennifer Lawrence teve que aprender a lidar com um arco para essa parte, ou eles simplesmente disseram: "Aqui, segure esse arco de fantasia e finja usá-lo"?

    
por Himarm 24.11.2015 / 15:32

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Jennifer Lawrence foi treinada pelo arqueiro olímpico Khatuna Lorig.

De este artigo :

To prepare for her role as "Hunger Games" heroine Katniss Everdeen, Lawrence trained with professional archer and Olympian Khatuna Lorig to learn how to properly shoot with a bow and arrow.

"She was lovely," Lorig told the Associated Press. "We had a great time coaching and working together."

Given her connection to the film, Lorig was one of six Olympians featured in a recent Glamour spread. The Olympic archer, together with a few of her fellow female archers, will also grace the cover of an upcoming special-edition "Hunger Games" DVD.

O desempenho de arco e flecha de Katniss é genuinamente real, mas ela deve segurar seu arco de forma diferente e ela pode ser irrealisticamente rápida.

Um resumo detalhado de suas habilidades pode ser encontrado em este artigo de um site profissional de tiro com arco. Eles passam por vários aspectos do tiroteio de Lawrence e dão um veredicto "Real or Not Real" (uma piada em Mockingjay ):

We know Jennifer Lawrence’s original archery coach was Khatuna Lorig, a five-time Olympian and Olympic medalist who clearly taught her how to shoot well. However, we also know Hollywood takes liberties with shooting form. So, are Katniss’ archery techniques real? Do they line up with the steps of shooting that USA Archery teaches? Let’s take a look.

Stance

The “Catching Fire” archery simulator scene shows Katniss’ feet slightly angled toward the target, with her front foot slightly behind her rear foot, giving her an open stance. Verdict? Real.

Nock

Katniss nocks her arrows – meaning that she fastens them safely onto the bowstring – superfast. We’re not sure if she double-checks to ensure whether the arrow is correctly aligned, or if the arrow is snapped onto the bowstring (nocked) in the correct place. Verdict: Undecided.

Hook and Grip

Katniss has her knuckles curled around the bowstring, which is not correct; the back of her hand should be flat and relaxed, and the bowstring placed closer to the first joint of her index, middle and ring fingers. Her grip – the hand that holds the bow – also shows a finger on the arrow, which isn’t safe. We’d change this part of her archery techniques. Verdict: Not real.

Posture (Set)

Jennifer Lawrence has beautiful red-carpet posture, and it shows when she’s in character, too. Her Katniss has a flat back, low shoulders and she usually appears to be in good alignment. Verdict: Real.

Raise Bow (Setup)

In archery, setup is the act of raising the bow. Katniss raises that bow fast, but then delivers a knockout punch. We’d tell her to slow down, but otherwise, Katniss’ setup is a good start. Verdict: Real.

Draw

We’d love to see Katniss raise the bow and draw the bowstring back more slowly, with a smoother motion. That would help her to keep her upper body in better alignment, and give her a stronger shot. Verdict: Real … but needs work.

Anchor

With a longbow (the bow type Katniss shoots), archers usually pull the bowstring back to at or above the corner of the mouth. This is called the “anchor point.” Katniss uses the under-the-chin anchor point commonly used by Olympic recurve archers, and we often see her drawing the bowstring past her anchor point, which is a no-no. Verdict: Not real.

Transfer

Once she’s reached her anchor point, we see Katniss pulling her elbow just a little farther back, transferring the bow’s weight into her back muscles before she shoots. Verdict: Real.

Aim

We can’t be certain when Katniss starts aiming, but top archers do not aim until they have fully drawn, anchored, and transferred the bow’s weight into their backs. Once they’re fully aligned, they aim for two to three seconds. Verdict: Real…we think.

Release and Follow Through

Coach Khatuna Lorig said she worked on this with Lawrence, and it shows. Katniss keeps her draw hand near her face and neck as she releases the bowstring, and follows through with strong back muscles. Verdict: Real.

Overall? Lawrence’s Katniss is the real archery deal. We would encourage her to slow down when possible because resting between shots is essential for strength and good shooting. But who are we to argue with a woman who shoots explosive arrows into the sky?

E de esta entrevista com Van Webster, o diretor de instrução dos Pasadena Roving Archers:

As a coach, in what ways would you improve her technique?

It’s hard to tell from the short clips, but the bottom line is there is too much movement.

Would anyone realistically be able to shoot as accurately as she does with that much movement?

There are people that can shoot that well, but not with the kind of movement portrayed in the film. All of that is computer-generated. We had the same problem in Avatar. The director wanted to use a shooting technique that was not one that would work in an environment where you were trying to produce accuracy. But it looked good visually.

    
24.11.2015 / 15:51

NÃO.

Sim, Jennifer Lawrence aparentemente foi treinada por arqueiros de nível olímpico. Então, tenho certeza que ela tinha uma técnica muito boa, baseada em arqueiros reais.

No entanto, toda a sua formação foi precisamente o tiro com arco de estilo olímpico, também conhecido como tiro com arco. Katniss não estaria atirando em um alvo estacionário, nem ficaria parada por muito tempo (admito que estou supondo, já que não vi muitos filmes).

Como Lars Anderson aponta em este vídeo fascinante , chamado" War archery "é um pouco diferente - e parece muito diferente do que Katniss - ea maioria dos outros personagens de Hollywood - tendem a fazer.

(Veja também algumas verificação de suas reivindicações aqui ).

Talvez a única coisa que ela tenha genuinamente correto seja manter os dois olhos bem abertos, em vez de apertar os olhos, como costuma acontecer com o tiro ao alvo.

    
24.11.2015 / 22:11

Jennifer Lawrence foi treinada por um atleta olímpico.

The Daily Beast explica

Khatuna Lorig has a cornucopia of accomplishments to be proud of: she’s mastered the sport of archery, competed in five Olympic Games, and won a silver and a bronze medal. But despite all of this, the achievement most likely to garner squeals of delight from strangers is the fact that she is responsible for teaching Jennifer Lawrence how to shoot a bow and arrow in The Hunger Games.

Lorig, an archer from Georgia (the country) who competed for three different countries at four different Olympic Games, was making the transition from medal winner to archery coach when she was asked to teach the then-21-year-old rising starlet the sport she’s spent her whole life perfecting.

    
24.11.2015 / 15:52

Lars Anderson é um arqueiro incrível, mas a idéia de que os arqueiros já tiveram um estilo de vida selvagem é uma bobagem. Arqueiros mongóis e turcos carregavam espadas e outras armas para um combate próximo. Além disso, seus arcos eram de peso de tração militar, de 70 a 110 libras, então até que Lars pode replicar suas proezas com arcos com esse poderoso, ele é apenas um dublê incrível.

Outro equívoco sobre o tiro com arco militar é que o objetivo foi particularmente significativo. A ideia do arco e flecha militar era lançar uma saraivada contínua de flechas em um corpo de homens; o objetivo estava confinado à distância e à direção geral. No momento em que o alcance da mira foi alcançado, um arqueiro sábio teria pegado sua espada, machado ou taco. Em um cenário militar, a capacidade de puxar uma strong reverência rapidamente era muito mais importante do que atingir os bullieses.

O estilo de Katniss deveria ter sido baseado no arqueiro primitivo de Howard Hill ou no moderno (eu sei) arqueiro, Ryan Gill.

    
25.10.2018 / 09:39