Steve Rogers era legalmente um "Capitão" da América?

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Steve Roger (o "Capitão América") se alistou no Exército dos EUA como privado. Então, depois de passar pelo tratamento do super soldado e provar sua ação, ele foi promovido:

Col. Chester Phillips: I asked for an army and all I got was you. You are not enough.

Senator Brandt: [to Steve] With all due respect to the Colonel, I think we may be missing the point. I’ve seen you in action, Steve. More importantly, the country’s seen it. [to his aide] Paper.[the aide shows them the news paper (‘The New York Examiner’ Vol. XCVII No. 33.634, Wednesday, June 23, 1943), headlines: "Nazis in New York - mystery man saves child"] The enlistment lines have been around the block since your picture hit the newsstands. You don’t take a soldier, a symbol like that, and hide him in a lab. Son, do you want to serve your country on the most important battlefield of the war?

Steve Rogers: Sir, that’s all I want.

Senator Brandt: Then, congratulations. You just got promoted.

Bem, obviamente, "Capitão América" ​​soa melhor que "América privada", mas essa promoção foi legal?

No artigo da wiki sobre "Promoção no campo de batalha":

A battlefield promotion is awarded to enlisted soldiers who are promoted to a higher enlisted rank during combat or combat conditions. [...]"Battlefield promotions are predicated on extraordinary performance of duties while serving in combat or under combat conditions." It can be used to promote an individual soldier one grade, to at most staff sergeant, and has a variety of constraints.

Então, a partir disso, Steve poderia ser, na melhor das hipóteses, "Sergeant America". Mas ele se tornou um oficial:

A battlefield commission is awarded to enlisted soldiers who are promoted to the rank of commissioned officer for outstanding leadership on the field of battle. The granting of a battlefield commission has its historical predecessor in the medieval practice of the knighting or ennoblement of a plebeian combatant on the battleground for demonstration of heroic qualities in an exceptional degree. In the medieval context, this martial achievement was often one of the main restricted pathways into the sword-bearing feudal aristocracy.

From World War I to the Vietnam War, over 31,200 sailors, soldiers, Marines, and airmen had been awarded battlefield commissions. Such a commission is usually advancement from a position of non-commissioned officer to a commissioned officer, generally O-1 - Second Lieutenant, or Ensign in the Navy and Coast Guard.

Portanto, temos aqui um cara que saltou não apenas nas notas 7 como NCO, mas também nas notas 3 (de tenente 2nd para capitão) sem nenhum treinamento para oficiais.

Essa promoção era juridicamente vinculativa ou Steve era apenas "capitão honorário"?

por Yasskier 30.01.2019 / 02:03

2 respostas

Não está claro.

Nos filmes, parece que ele é realmente um capitão.

In the film Captain America: The First Avenger, Steve Rogers enlists into the Army as a private (rank E-1). Upon his successful transition via the Super Soldier serum and a training period of some length, he is promoted to the literal rank of Captain (O-3), as shown by his service uniform rank insignia.

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- Is Captain America technically a captain? Did he ever actually obtain that rank? If he is ever promoted, will he still be called a Captain ? - Quora

Parece que os cineastas adotaram o fato de ele ser um legítimo capitão. Mas nos quadrinhos não podemos ter certeza.

Beginning in World War II, the "secret identity" of Captain America was in fact his real name and enlisted rank, i.e. - Private Steve Rogers, who deliberately acted the part of a soldier so inept they couldn't even risk sending him to battle, so he remained stationed at an Army base in Virginia as a cover for his operations as Captain America.

This is where the question of Cap's "real" rank becomes tricky because of the complicated continuity. Depending on who was writing it, either Captain America was really just an Army private, or he was in fact a commissioned captain who was merely posing as an Army private as part of his cover story.

To make things even more complicated, when he is operating in the battlefield as Captain America per se, his designation as "Captain" becomes a far more grandiose title than mere rank might suggest. Owing to the advanced tactical and strategic training he has been given, in addition to his security clearance levels and combat experience, any time "Captain" America engages with the U.S. military, he does so with full operational authority over all forces. For all intents and purposes, he outranks any other military officer in the room, even if that officer is a full four-star general or admiral.

Yet despite this insane level of authority, I believe that even in the present he still formally draws pay from the U.S. military as if he was just plain old O-3 Captain Rogers.
- Is Captain America technically a captain? Did he ever actually obtain that rank? If he is ever promoted, will he still be called a Captain ? - Quora

Então, de acordo com os quadrinhos, ele pode ser um soldado ou um capitão, não podemos ter certeza.


Atualização: de acordo com esta fonte he is um capitão, mas duvido da credibilidade disso.

30.01.2019 / 02:35

Esta pergunta tem alguns meses, mas estou adicionando uma resposta para ressaltar que o senador não está oferecendo a Rogers uma comissão no campo de batalha.

As comissões de oficiais do Exército dos EUA são votadas no Comitê de Serviços Armados do Senado. Se um senador importante se oferece para fazer de você um oficial, ele pode fazer isso. O senador Brandt teria apenas que falar com o Departamento de Guerra e depois adicionar o nome de Steve à próxima lista de nomes a serem votados. Durante a Segunda Guerra Mundial, o Senado provavelmente estava votando em milhares de comissões por mês.

30.07.2019 / 18:30