Pergunta sobre a recusa do visto de visitante no Reino Unido

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Sou cidadão do Reino Unido e tenho meu noivo morando na Índia. Recentemente, ele solicitou um visto de visita de casamento, mas, infelizmente, embora tivéssemos certeza de que seria aprovado, foi recusado. Também contratamos um advogado para o nosso caso, e ele está nos encaminhando pelo aplicativo pela segunda vez. Nós planejamos nos casar aqui no Reino Unido, mas não queremos morar aqui. Até o momento, não temos certeza de onde iremos residir; mas dissemos em nosso requerimento que retornaríamos à Índia para viver. A questão da cidadania é diferente, mas parece que estamos tendo problemas para convencer o governo de que meu noivo retornará à Índia.

Ele está matriculado em um mestrado de 2 anos que termina em maio deste ano. Nós agora estamos sendo pressionados pelo tempo para enviar a inscrição novamente para que ele possa vir, passar dois meses aqui e depois partir no final de abril, pois ele tem seus exames finais em maio. Além disso, ele é dono de uma moto e tem uma família grande - mas não é dependente. Outro ponto foi financiamento - meu noivo pagou mais de 55.000 INR para a viagem e emprestou 10.000 INR de seu pai - mas eles estavam preocupados com isso.

Os pontos de recusa são os seguintes -

You have applied for a visit visa to visit the UK for a period of 3 months to marry your fiance, Miss C L on 6th April 2018.

I acknowledge the supporting documents from your UK sponsor with regards to your accommodation and relationship. I have also considered the info you have provided about your personal and economic circumstances.

You state you are a student and employed as ...at...with a monthly income of 25,000 INR. You state you will finance this visit and that you will have £950 available to you for this purpose and that your father will contribute towards the cost of the trip.

As evidence of your funds you have provided a bank book from IDBI bank pertaining to an account in your name with a closing balance of £166. I note the cost of this trip represents more than 3 times your apparent monthly income and I am not satisfied you have sufficient funds to cover the cost of your trip.

Whilst I acknowledge you ave submitted evidence of your studies and employment, I am minded by the fact that you are dependant on the money being contributed by your father. However, you have not provided documents to confirm your parents personal circumstances in India. It is your responsibility to demonstrate that your personal circumstances in India are such that if granted leave to enter, you will comply with all of the conditions attached to any such leave and that you will leave the UK on completion of the proposed visit. I consider that the documents you have submitted do not demonstrate personal or economic ties to India and I am not satisfied that you genuinely intend a visit on this occasion. I am not satisfied that you are a genuine visitor and will leave the UK at the end of your visit. I have therefore refused your application in accordance with Paragraph 4.2 (a) (b) (c) and (d) of Appendix V of the Immigration Rules.

Queremos reaplicar o mais rápido possível, para o mesmo visto. Como podemos fortalecer mais esta aplicação? Alguém tem alguma idéia sobre outros laços sociais ou pessoais? Os exames para um mestrado não são suficientes? Ajudaria se eu, talvez, reservasse um curso na Índia para provar que planejamos viajar para lá juntos?

Espero que alguém possa nos dar algumas ideias novas. Nós nos amamos e estamos separados há dois meses, esperando pacientemente que nosso tempo volte a ficar juntos.

    
por Caitlin Loughrie 12.02.2018 / 22:06

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Depois de ver o meu comentário sobre esta questão, , sobre a recusa do seu visto de visitante de casamento (MVV).

The OP is a British national whose fiance is in India and they want to use an MVV for the fiance to come the UK and get married. This throws up a flag right off the bat…

Background. The MVV was invented in 2005 because Parliament found a no other way to accommodate a specific scenario: A couple where both parties were non-EU nationals want to come to the UK and get married at a destination venue (such as a romantic castle in Scotland) and then leave the UK. The hospitality lobby had successfully argued that without a visa like this the hotel and catering industry would suffer a loss of revenue. So this visa was created and enacted.

British nationals who want to marry a non-EU spouse are meant to use the existing fiance visa rules given in Appendix FM. But these rules have a hefty fee attached to them and therein lies the confusion. People look at the various options and see that a UK fiance visa fee is about GBP 1,500, whereas the fee for an MVV is only about GBP 90. So the MVV is obviously the way to go, right?

Well, no. The fiance visa gives the holder the right to stay in the UK lawfully once the couple are married and then to apply from within the UK for a spouse visa. The holder of a spouse visa can take employment, and receive permanent residence (indefinite leave to remain, or ILR) after 5 years. And then they can apply for British nationality on the next day! The holder of an MVV gets none of those things.

But for some, it’s worth the difference in price to come to the UK, get married, and then use Article 8 (human rights) to remain in the UK. When this happens, the path to ILR is extended to 10 years. Of course the applicant’s credibility is stained, but for lots of people this aspect doesn’t mean very much as they are just starting out in life. I have been saying that it may be worth it for a very small number of cases, but 10 years is an awfully long time to hold out in a perilous immigration status with a new marriage. But if it works, it works, right?

Well, sort of. But if the strategy is to get in cheaply and to use Article 8, then the SVV costs the same and leaves their credibility largely intact, or at least more so than the outright abuse of an MVV.

Anyway, back to topic…

Reading the refusal notice I find myself repeating the mantra that “ECO’s are not idiots”. Here we have two people who want to get married. Option 1 is to send the Brit to India, get married, and return to the UK. Option 2 is to send the Indian to the UK, get married, and (optimistically stated) return to India. Any way you cut it Option 1 is somewhere between GBP 300 – GBP 400 cheaper than Option 2. So what’s the rationale for wanting Option 2? How is it that somebody with GBP 169 in the bank proposes to spend 300 – 400 pounds more to accomplish the same thing? Unless it’s to accomplish something different. Or is the ECO not supposed to notice those things? I suppose there’s an explanation that justifies an irrational plan like that, but they didn’t include it in the application.

Next we come to the point Giorgio raised… they instructed a solicitor, this is great and part of my standing advice for over two decades. So what in heaven’s name are they doing on the net asking random strangers for ideas and advice? eh? EH?

Finally (and perhaps mercifully) we arrive at my final nitpick. In comments, the OP writes…

He would be arriving in March, or the end of February (depending on if the application is approved) and we would leave for India together at the end of April/beginning of May as he has examinations in May

     

Vamos fazer a aritmética. 7 dias de residência necessários para dar aviso prévio, mais 28 - 70 dias para o período de aviso prévio (mais se algo está ligado). Isso nos dá algo entre 35 a 77 dias antes do casamento acontecer. Em seguida, adicione 3 a 5 dias de atraso para reservar o celebrante. Seus exames na Índia começam em maio. O resto é deixado como um exercício para o leitor.

Resumindo: como cidadão britânico, o uso dessa rota é abusivo, o que um advogado versado na lei de imigração do Reino Unido reconhecerá. Uma segunda aplicação na mesma categoria provavelmente terá o mesmo resultado, uma recusa e repetidas recusas o afetarão, não a você. Para o seu futuro juntos, talvez seja necessário repensar seus planos de curto prazo para que seus objetivos de longo prazo não sejam afetados negativamente.

    
13.02.2018 / 22:05