Quais são os efeitos de balefire em objetos inanimados?

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Assim, sabemos que o uso de balefire pode efetivamente "retroceder o tempo", de certa forma, quando usado contra pessoas. Mas o que acontece se for usado em uma floresta? Todo o oxigênio que a árvore produziu deixa de existir e as pessoas que a respiram sufocam? Na batalha com Rahvin, Rand usou a fogueira no Palácio antes de entrar em Tel'aran'rhiod, destruindo algumas paredes. E se aquela pedra tivesse matado alguém no prédio do palácio? Essa pessoa teria sido trazida de volta à vida? (Obviamente, quero dizer se a fogueira foi usada durante a construção do palácio)

A ferrugem afeta objetos inanimados da mesma forma que os vivos?

    
por PiousVenom 08.11.2017 / 16:44

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Sim, a fogueira afeta objetos inanimados da mesma maneira que os seres vivos.

O exemplo mais claro e mais frequentemente citado disso está no livro 7, Uma Coroa de Espadas , quando

Moghedien balefires the boat in which Nynaeve is travelling,

e Nynaeve encontra-se a alguma distância por trás onde ela estava anteriormente. Esse incidente em particular inspirou muito debate entre os fãs de WoT - foi o barco ser balefire, ou apenas os remadores, que causou isso? - mas acabou sendo esclarecido por uma carta de Robert Jordan para um Thomas Howard ( não o duque de Norfolk):

  1. What the hell is up with balefire (in regards to Nyn and the boat)?

The main issue with this was whether or not balefire burned inanimate objects back through time in addition to living creatures. According to Mr. Jordan, yes it does.

[Ra'T note: 1) emphasis mine; 2) "Nyn"? wtf?]

Houve também uma discussão mais longa sobre isso com Brandon Sanderson no JordanCon 2011 :

Marie Curie: Even a stone in a wall has a thread in the Pattern, right? You said so...

Brandon Sanderson: As I understand it, Robert Jordan specifically said that even inanimate objects have a thread.

Marie Curie: So, that explains why when, say, a stone pillar is balefired, only the portion that balefire hits disintegrates...

Brandon Sanderson: Right...

Marie Curie: ...because all of those little bits would have their own threads...

Brandon Sanderson: Theoretically. And I was wrong on that for a while—I had to go back and look at interviews before I...[to Terez] Were you the one that sent me that?

Terez: Yeah, I tweeted that to you...

Brandon Sanderson: Yeah...the boat that Nynaeve was on that got balefired...

Marie Curie: She pointed out that inanimate objects...their threads are burned back. But that also explains why a person who has one thread tied to their soul would be completely eliminated by balefire.

Brandon Sanderson: Mmmhmm.

Marie Curie: So...why did their clothes go away?

Terez: (laughs)

Brandon Sanderson: Balefire does spread a bit, from what I've read.

Marie Curie: Then why doesn't it for the column?

Brandon Sanderson: It does, but it's like, you know...just a little bit.

Marie Curie: Right, but if you use a pencil-thin bit of balefire, right, and I shot your shirt, why would the whole shirt disappear?

Brandon Sanderson: Um, if it goes through and hits you, then you disintegrate, and it will spread out from you.

Marie Curie: Then, that doesn't explain Nynaeve's boat.

Brandon Sanderson: No, it doesn't. ... I will be perfectly honest with you. I've worked through and tried to figure out the rules of balefiring inanimate objects quite a bit...because we've got the whole thing with Nynaeve and...

Marie Curie: The rowers.

Brandon Sanderson: Yeah. Well no, not even that...earlier than that with the balefire rod that's like cutting swaths through the palace in Tanchico, and it's just cutting lines through the palace, just slicing big holes...

Marie Curie: Right. That's the stone pillars...the multiple threads...

Terez: It did the same thing in Caemlyn with Rand and Rahvin.

Brandon Sanderson: Yeah. And that's searing little lines, but then you hit something living, and it all poofs. It actually becomes motes...like it hits and it spreads to the full, living thing, and then poof that all goes away. And so...the clothes are something I hadn't even thought of, but balefire does seem to spread a little bit...

Marie Curie: You would think that, you know...where the balefire hit, obviously there would be a hole, the person would poof, and their clothes would drop.

Brandon Sanderson: Yeah. But it's got to spread a little bit because of that. But then, you know, with the boat...yeah.

Marie Curie: You can't imagine how many debates we've had on Theoryland about the boat...

Terez: Oh god...

Brandon Sanderson: The boat is an outlier. You could argue a couple of things on it—distance and power level could both be involved.

Marie Curie: And there are other outliers, like in The Gathering Storm...um...

Terez: The palace?

Marie Curie: Yeah, the palace...

Brandon Sanderson: That, I did intentionally. Looking through everything that is happening, and saying, 'He is continuing to pump balefire into this thing, to expand it through into the entire thing...'

Terez: So, it's a deliberate, directive thing...

Brandon Sanderson: That's got to be possible, because in the Age of Legends...

Terez: Right, whole cities...

Brandon Sanderson: Right, whole cities. And so there's got to be a force-to-spread multiplier. Does that make sense?

Marie Curie: Sure.

Brandon Sanderson: So, I'm using a force-to-spread multiplier. And so you could maybe make that argument with the boat.

TL; DR: é complicado, e até Sanderson não parece entender completamente o que Jordan realmente tinha em mente nessa questão, mas o resultado final é que a balefire faz afetar objetos inanimados no da mesma forma que os vivos, queimando seus fios do Padrão, incluindo para trás no passado, se a fogueira for strong o suficiente.

    
09.11.2017 / 00:56