Por que Robert não manteve as Stormlands após a rebelião?

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Após a rebelião, Robert deu as Stormlands para seu irmão Renly. Por que ele não mantinha as Terras da Tempestade para si mesmo, para ter mais poder?

    
por Skooba 07.02.2018 / 19:26

4 respostas

TLDR:

  • porque ele era generoso
  • por causa do equilíbrio de poder
  • porque ele não queria poder

Long Answer:

  • Generosidade de Robert: em uma correspondência com os fãs , G.R.R. Martin ele fez isso porque ele era generoso:

    Robert could just as lawfully retained both castles for his sons, and made Joffrey the Prince of Dragonstone and Tommen the Lord of Storm's End. Giving them to his brothers instead was another instance of his great, but rather careless, generosity.

    So Spake Martin

  • Equilíbrio de poder: como você diz, ele seria poderoso. Muito poderoso, na verdade, portanto, os outros senhores não aceitariam
  • Sabe-se que Robert Baratheon não gostava muito de poder. Ele delegou muito poder dele ao seu conselho, então por que também reinar sobre as Stormlands enquanto outro Baratheon poderia?

    The king shook his head. "Well, now I know Jaime's dark sin, and the matter can be forgotten. I am heartily sick of secrets and squabbles and matters of state, Ned. It's all as tedious as counting coppers. Come, let's ride, you used to know how. I want to feel the wind in my hair again." He kicked his horse back into motion and galloped up over the barrow, raining earth down behind him.

    A Game of Thrones - Eddard II


    Robert looked away, off into the grey distance. "The gods be damned. It was a hollow victory they gave me. A crown … it was the girl I prayed them for. Your sister, safe … and mine again, as she was meant to be. I ask you, Ned, what good is it to wear a crown? The gods mock the prayers of kings and cowherds alike."

    A Game of Thrones - Eddard II


    "Robert …" "Drink and stay quiet, the king is talking. I swear to you, I was never so alive as when I was winning this throne, or so dead as now that I've won it.

    A Game of Thrones - Eddard VII

07.02.2018 / 20:00

Porque um rei feudal parecido com Westeros só pode controlar diretamente uma quantidade limitada de terra. Lembre-se, o modo mais rápido de enviar mensagens é o corvo, que é caro e limitado. Não há exército ou polícia profissional, e a burocracia parece limitada em Westeros, mas sim um sistema feudal. Tomemos o exemplo da decisão capetiana da França, por volta de 1000:

As terras da Coroa (Domaine Royal) são bem pequenas, comparadas ao território dos vassalos. É praticamente o mesmo para os Sete Reinos: você não pode controlar diretamente Westeros inteiros, você precisa dividir o território em entidades menores, com uma régua para cada. Controlar as Terras Altas e as Terras da Tempestade exigiria muito trabalho, considerando que ele também precisa administrar o Senhor Paramount e a Política internacional, já que ele é o principal soberano

    
08.02.2018 / 00:36

Porque ele era generoso com uma falha e talvez gostasse um pouco de Renly.

We discussed whether Robert loved his brother Renly or not. Haaruk thought so, while I never envisioned their relationship as more than lukewarm. (Jaime said Robert hardly could stomach his brothers (plural form)). Which is correct?

There are many different kinds of love. Robert was dutiful toward his brothers, and no doubt loved them in a way... but he didn't necessarily like them. His relations with Stannis were always prickly. Renly was the baby of the family, and spent little time in Robert's company until he was old enough to come to court. I suspect Robert was fond of the boy, but not especially close to him.

Stannis always resented being given Dragonstone while Renly got Storm's End, and took that as a slight... but it's not necessarily true that Robert meant it that way. The Targaryen heir apparent had always been titled Prince of Dragonstone. By making Stannis the Lord of Dragonstone, Robert affirmed his brother's status as heir (which he was, until Joff's birth a few years later). Robert could just as lawfully retained both castles for his sons, and made Joffrey the Prince of Dragonstone and Tommen the Lord of Storm's End. Giving them to his brothers instead was another instance of his great, but rather careless, generosity.

So Spake Martin, THE BARATHEON BROTHERS; September 11, 1999

E além disso, Robert nunca quis realmente governar e até pensou em deixar tudo para trás

"Let me tell you a secret, Ned. More than once, I have dreamed of giving up the crown. Take ship for the Free Cities with my horse and my hammer, spend my time warring and whoring, that's what I was made for. The sellsword king, how the singers would love me.

A Game of Thrones - Eddard VIII

e só levou a coroa porque tinha que

Robert sat down again. "Damn you, Ned Stark. You and Jon Arryn, I loved you both. What have you done to me? You were the one should have been king, you or Jon."

A Game of Thrones - Eddard VII

    
07.02.2018 / 19:58

A resposta rápida e suja é que ele tinha as Terras da Tempestade. Como rei, ele tinha todos os 7 reinos sob seu comando e controle. Ele simplesmente precisava de alguém para ser o diretor ou líder de cada um e delegar esse poder para outra pessoa, como seu irmão mais novo ou amigos / aliados. Ele tem assuntos mais importantes para lidar (ou ignorar no caso de Robert), então alguém deve estar no comando deles.

É como dizer por que alguém deixaria de ser governador de um estado quando se tornasse o presidente dos Estados Unidos?

    
07.02.2018 / 19:59