Keller foi encontrado no final?

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No filme Prisioneiros , Keller Dover (Hugh Jackman) é pego pela Sra. Jones e ele é colocado em seu calabouço debaixo do carro em seu quintal.

No final, quando o detetive Loki (Jake Gyllenhaal) ouve o leve assobio soado por Keller, ele percebe que é ele?

A cena final termina quando Loki ouve o assobio, olha na direção vaga e os créditos rolam.

Loki encontrou e resgatou Keller no final?

Parece que devemos ler que Keller foi salvo, mas não tenho muita certeza.

    
por Möoz 17.04.2015 / 13:01

4 respostas

Não pode ser determinado, mas as chances de Keller ser encontrado por Loki são altas com base na expressão de Loki depois de ouvir o fraco apito duas vezes e também fomos mostrados no filme que Detective Loki é bom com detalhes e pontos de conexão.

Em uma entrevista com o roteirista Aaron Guzikowski , é explicado que um final em que Keller é encontrado por Loki foi realmente filmado, mas foi deliberadamente decidido em favor de um final mais ambíguo:

On the decision to end the movie with a cliffhanger:

“Oddly enough, that’s how it was in the script when it was bought. And it never really changed. When we were shooting, we did shoot a version where it goes a little beyond where the fade out is. There’s a version where he moves the car and sees Hugh down there, and so on. None of us really wanted to do that version, but we wanted to make sure we had it in case once the film was put together it seemed like it really needed it. But after testing the film with the ending it has now, everyone decided that was definitely the way to go. Joel Cox, the editor, felt very strongly about it. I just think that’s the moment when the movie is ready to end.”

And the ending that was shot but didn’t get used was…

“They move the car. They see he’s down there. You know he’s going to be taken out of the hole. I like it much better being ambiguous. Even though you assume that’s what’s probably going to happen, I like that there’s a small chance that he’s not going to get him out of there for whatever reason.”

But Detective Loki is so tenacious during the movie. Is there a scenario where he’d actually walk away?

“No, I think there’s a small percent chance that for some strange reason he might decide not to get the guy up. In my mind he would: Those two guys have a strange connection that they form over the course of the movie. That seems to be the logical next step for Jake’s character at that moment.”

On why the studio was (atypically) fine with an oblique ending: “

I was very surprised that we were allowed to keep that ending. I was surprised I was able to get the movie made, actually. It’s a pretty dark script. Especially ending the way it does. It’s definitely a testament to Alcon, the producers on the movie, sticking by the script and not wanting to make it into something it wasn’t.”

In a fantasy world where we saw what happened to Keller after he’s out of the hole, things would not have gone well for him:

“I think, unfortunately, he would go to prison. The final irony — his father was a prison guard, and the whole movie is metaphors of people’s internal prisons, external prisons. I believe that’s what would end up happening to him: that he would go to prison for some time.”

    
17.04.2015 / 13:27

Acabei de assistir ao filme e depois vim até aqui para procurar perguntas sobre isso. Minha interpretação desta cena em particular é a seguinte:

Ficou muito claro para mim quando o vi. Loki vai encontrar Keller e, claro, resgatá-lo. Tudo estava preparado para isso desde o início do filme, quando Loki foi à casa da Sra. Jones pela primeira vez e inspecionou o Trans-Am do lado de fora, quando ele descobriu o apito no hospital, quando o pessoal da CSI fechou a porta. zumbindo de suas máquinas e desligando o tocador de música. Até mesmo sua reação final de encolher os ombros com descrença antes de ouvir o som apagado do apito pela última vez foi um sinal claro do que aconteceria em seguida.

Tudo isso juntos fez com que Loki percebesse o que estava acontecendo. Não havia nenhum significado para mostrar o resgate real porque nós já recebemos a mensagem e isso estragaria a mensagem até certo ponto. Todos os protagonistas e antagonistas são de uma forma ou de outra 'prisioneiros' .

    
26.09.2016 / 18:59

O assobio fraco deveria, de fato, tornar mais difícil decidir de qualquer forma. O final do filme sem ele teria sugerido que eles nunca o encontraram.

Eu quero dizer o caminho do filme, não o caminho do senso comum. Caso contrário, eu concordo com chaitanya89 (veja a primeira resposta). Há alguma chance para ele ser encontrado. Loki é um detetive tenaz mesmo. No entanto, acho que responde a outra pergunta: "Há razões para esperar que o tenham encontrado?".

O final é intencionalmente deixado ambíguo, ajustando-se a um caráter moralmente ambíguo.

    
17.04.2015 / 14:07

O final foi propositadamente deixado ambíguo. Houve um final original em que Loki move o carro e encontra Keller, mas os cineastas mudaram de propósito e o estúdio acabou deixando-o como está. O final mostra que Loki ouve o apito, mas nós não o vemos realmente encontrar Keller. Assim, pode ser que ele decida que foi apenas o vento, ou pode ser que ele o encontre, mas decida deixá-lo em seu destino, ou pode ser que ele o encontre e resgate. Eu acho que a conclusão mais provável dada a Loki é que depois de ouvir o apito, ele investiga mais a área até encontrar Keller e resgatá-lo do buraco e então Keller vai para a prisão pelo que ele fez com Alex.

Aqui estão alguns comentários de um artigo do buzzfeed < Entrevistando o roteirista e abordando essas questões.

Did the whistle work, for God's sake? ... I talked to Prisoners screenwriter Aaron Guzikowski about the ending.

On the decision to end the movie with a cliffhanger:

"Oddly enough, that's how it was in the script when it was bought. And it never really changed. When we were shooting, we did shoot a version where it goes a little beyond where the fade out is. There's a version where he moves the car and sees Hugh down there, and so on. None of us really wanted to do that version, but we wanted to make sure we had it in case once the film was put together it seemed like it really needed it. But after testing the film with the ending it has now, everyone decided that was definitely the way to go. Joel Cox, the editor, felt very strongly about it. I just think that's the moment when the movie is ready to end."

And the ending that was shot but didn't get used was...

"They move the car. They see he's down there. You know he's going to be taken out of the hole. I like it much better being ambiguous. Even though you assume that's what's probably going to happen, I like that there's a small chance that he's not going to get him out of there for whatever reason."

*But Detective Loki is so tenacious during the movie. Is there a scenario where he'd actually walk away?

"No, I think there's a small percent chance that for some strange reason he might decide not to get the guy up. In my mind he would: Those two guys have a strange connection that they form over the course of the movie. That seems to be the logical next step for Jake's character at that moment."*

On why the studio was (atypically) fine with an oblique ending:

"I was very surprised that we were allowed to keep that ending. I was surprised I was able to get the movie made, actually. It's a pretty dark script. Especially ending the way it does. It's definitely a testament to Alcon, the producers on the movie, sticking by the script and not wanting to make it into something it wasn't."

In a fantasy world where we saw what happened to Keller after he's out of the hole, things would not have gone well for him:

"I think, unfortunately, he would go to prison. The final irony — his father was a prison guard, and the whole movie is metaphors of people's internal prisons, external prisons. I believe that's what would end up happening to him: that he would go to prison for some time."

    
02.09.2018 / 21:18

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