O que Tywin quis dizer quando disse isso a Jaime sobre precisar de toda a ajuda que ele pode obter?

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Em S04E01 temos um diálogo entre Jaime Lannister e seu pai. Tywin ordena que Jaime retorne ao Casterly Rock e governe, mas ele se recusa. Seu pai aceita e diz a ele para manter a nova espada de aço valiriana que ele acabara de criar para seu filho, dizendo

A one-handed man with no family needs all the help he can get.

Por que ele disse isso? Ele insinuou que desde que seu filho se recusou a obedecê-lo, ele não o ajudará mais ou que, uma vez que ele decidiu permanecer na Guarda Real, ele não será mais herdeiro e, por extensão, não fará parte da família?

    
por Thomas 07.09.2017 / 23:17

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Tywin realmente rejeitou Jaime lá. Ele queria que Jaime cumprisse seu dever com sua família, Jaime recusou. Tywin observou que ele tentou por quarenta anos ensiná-lo e, se Jaime não aprendeu até agora, nunca o fará. A Guarda Real só abandona suas reivindicações, não seus nomes de família como os Maestros. Seus votos não fazem dele menos parte da Casa Lannister. É sua insistência que seu dever como KG está acima de seu dever como um Lannister que fez Tywin negar-lhe.

Tywin: You can't serve in the Kingsguard with one hand.

Jaime: Where's that written? I can and I will. The Kingsguard oath is for life.

Tywin: The war is over. The king is safe.

Jaime: The king is never safe. How many people in this city alone would love to see his head on a pike?

Tywin: Other knights protected the king while you were a prisoner. They will continue to do so when you go home.

Jaime: Home?

Tywin: You'll return to Casterly Rock and rule in my stead.

Jaime: You are the Lord of Casterly Rock.

Tywin: I am the King's Hand. My place is here. I don't expect to see the Rock again before I die.

Jaime: You know what they call me? Kingslayer. Oathbreaker. Man without honor. Now you want me to break another sacred vow.

Tywin: You won't be breaking anything. There is a precedent to relieve a Kingsguard of his duties. The king will exercise that prerogative.

Jaime: No.

Tywin: No?

Jaime: No.

Tywin: I don't believe I asked you a question.

Jaime: There's my answer.

Tywin: If you think your bloody honor comes before--

Jaime: My bloody honor is beyond repair, but my answer is still no. I don't want Casterly Rock. I don't want a wife. I don't want children.

Tywin: What do you want?

Jaime: Supper would be nice.

Tywin: For 40 years I've tried to teach you. If you haven't learned by now, you never will. Go. If serving as a glorified bodyguard is the sum of your ambition, go serve.

Jaime: I suppose you want the sword back.

Tywin: Keep it. A one-handed man with no family needs all the help he can get.
Season 4 - Two Swords

Jaime pegou a dica e disse o mesmo para Cersei. Cersei discordou no entanto.

Cersei: And now I'm marrying my eldest son to a wicked little bitch from Highgarden while I'm supposed to marry her brother, a renowned pillow biter.

Jaime: So Father disowned me today.

Cersei: He can't disown you. You're all he's got.
Season 4 - Two Swords

Acabou que Cersei estava certo. Tywin aceitou a oferta de Jaime para se tornar herdeiro de Casterly Rock se ele deixasse Tyrion viver depois.

Livros

Foi assim que aconteceu nos livros, ficou mais claro que Tywin havia repudiado Jaime depois que ele se recusou a prestar serviço para sua casa e quando Tywin disse que ele era seu filho, Jaime disse que ele era um Cavaleiro da Guarda Real. Então, pode-se dizer que foi Jaime quem queimou as pontes.

“You cannot serve in the Kingsguard without a sword hand -”

I can,” he interrupted. “And I will. There’s precedent. I’ll look in the White Book and find it, if you like. Crippled or whole, a knight of the Kingsguard serves for life.

Cersei ended that when she replaced Ser Barristan on grounds of age. A suitable gift to the Faith will persuade the High Septon to release you from your vows. Your sister was foolish to dismiss Selmy, admittedly, but now that she has opened the gates -”

“- someone needs to close them again.” Jaime stood. “I am tired of having highborn women kicking pails of shit at me, Father. No one ever asked me if I wanted to be Lord Commander of the Kingsguard, but it seems I am. I have a duty -”

You do.” Lord Tywin rose as well. “A duty to House Lannister. You are the heir to Casterly Rock. That is where you should be. Tommen should accompany you, as your ward and squire. The Rock is where he’ll learn to be a Lannister, and I want him away from his mother. I mean to find a new husband for Cersei. Oberyn Martell perhaps, once I convince Lord Tyrell that the match does not threaten Highgarden. And it is past time you were wed. The Tyrells are now insisting that Margaery be wed to Tommen, but if I were to offer you instead -”

“NO!” Jaime had heard all that he could stand. No, more than he could stand. He was sick of it, sick of lords and lies, sick of his father, his sister, sick of the whole bloody business. “No. No. No. No. No. How many times must I say no before you’ll hear it? Oberyn Martell? The man’s infamous, and not just for poisoning his sword. He has more bastards than Robert, and beds with boys as well. And if you think for one misbegotten moment that I would wed Joffrey’s widow...”

“Lord Tyrell swears the girl’s still maiden.”

“She can die a maiden as far as I’m concerned. I don’t want her, and I don’t want your Rock!”

You are my son -”

I am a knight of the Kingsguard. The Lord Commander of the Kingsguard! And that’s all I mean to be!

Firelight gleamed golden in the stiff whiskers that framed Lord Tywin’s face. A vein pulsed in his neck, but he did not speak. And did not speak. And did not speak.

The strained silence went on until it was more than Jaime could endure.

“Father...” he began.

You are not my son.” Lord Tywin turned his face away. “You say you are the Lord Commander of the Kingsguard, and only that. Very well, ser. Go do your duty.”
ASOS - Jaime VIII

    
08.09.2017 / 08:41