referências Torre Negra em outras obras de Stephen King ou vice-versa

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Recentemente comecei a reler a saga da Torre Negra (acabei de terminar a parte IV: Wizard e Glass, provavelmente minha parte favorita na série) e notei algumas ligações com outras obras de Stephen King. Por exemplo, em Wizard e Glass, o Ka-Tet encontra uma nota de uma certa Abigail no para-brisa de um carro no Kansas. Embora muitos anos tenham se passado desde que li esse livro, acredito que isso seja um aceno para o The Stand.

Agora existem muitas conexões como essa? E então eu quero dizer conexões adequadas e não apenas coisas assim:

19: The number nineteen is a magical number in the Dark Tower novels. In Blockade Billy, it is Billy’s shirt number.

desde aqueles não são referências que não fazem muito impacto no trabalho de King. Não importa a propósito se a Torre Negra faz referência a outros livros ou se outros livros referenciam a Torre Negra. Estou interessado nos dois sentidos.

Nota : como estou pensando em ler as obras referenciadas no futuro, agradeceria se as respostas mostrassem apenas os títulos dos livros. Mais explicações são bem-vindas, mas por favor use tags spoiler.

    
por Noosrep 13.06.2016 / 16:29

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Stephen King recentemente discutiu esse assunto com Entertainment Weekly .

Ele relaciona as seguintes conexões, no entanto, algumas são tênues na melhor das hipóteses:

O Iluminado e o Médico Dormir

Psychic powers in The Dark Tower film are referred to as “The Shine,” which means Jake Chambers, the boy at the center of the story, has the same abilities that Danny Torrance had in King’s classic 1977 novel (and the 2013 sequel Doctor Sleep). Is the Shine becoming his catch-all psychic ability? Does that mean the wallflower-turned-prom-queen in Carrie had a malevolent version of The Shine? “I don’t know, man,” King says with a laugh. “It’s like the guy says in House of Cards: ‘You might think so, but I couldn’t possibly comment.’”

A posição e os olhos do dragão

Randall Flagg, the sharp-tongued, charismatic villain from King’s 1979 Americana apocalypse and his 1987 old-school fairy tale, is the same sinister presence Matthew McConaughey plays in The Dark Tower, only operating a different alias – Walter, The Man in Black. “At some point I realized that Randall Flagg and Walter were the same character and once you take this whole idea in mind that Mid-World is connected to our world you say, ‘Well okay, this guy shows up again and again,’” King says. Did he just like seeing this devil again? King shudders: “I never want to see that guy.”

Corações na Atlântida

In the 1999 story collection, Ted Brautigan is a psychic who, like Jake in the movie, is being pursued as a “Breaker,” someone whose power can help collapse the Tower. The 2001 movie dropped the Tower references, and instead had the Anthony Hopkins character being pursued by government agents for clandestine Cold War research. “I wish they had gone more supernatural with that,” King says of the movie. “I thought there was a way to do that without feeding into the whole Dark Tower thing.”

In the film version of The Dark Tower, there’s an older Breaker who is somewhat inspired by Ted Brautigan, although it’s not the same character. Director and co-writer Nikolaj Arcel said he wanted someone who was older than Jake, someone who had been enslaved by the Man in Black for a long time. So there’ll be flashes back to this figure’s younger days – in the way-back era of the 1990s.

‘Salem’s Lot

In this 1975 book, the fallen priest who loses his faith and drinks the blood of a vampire later becomes a key ally of Roland the Gunslinger in the latter Dark Tower books. If there are sequels to the movie, it’s possible he may turn up onscreen. “Father Callahan…” King says wistfully. “I’d love to see him in there. But we’ll have to see how the [first] film does.”

Insônia

An elderly man who begins having visions after losing the ability to sleep comes to learn about a mystical tower that stands for all the levels of reality – and the agents of the Crimson King who wishes to tear it down. Before this 1994 novel, the Tower saga was separate from King’s other novels. “Insomnia was the first place where I really understood [the links] consciously and I started to work all this stuff in there,” the author says.

O Talismã e a Casa Negra

These fantasy epics, co-written with Peter Straub, take place in The Territories, a neighbor to The Dark Tower’s Mid-World. The connection wasn’t made in 1984’s The Talisman, but for the 2001 sequel, King and Straub tied them together explicitly. “It seemed to me almost undeniable, and it did to Peter, too, that if we were talking about another world you could flip into, it would be related to Mid-World,” King says, referencing similar adjacent realms from Game of Thrones. “An analog would be Westeros and Meereen.”

In the midst of our conversation, King drops a bombshell: There’s a third Talisman books in the works. At least, it’s currently germinating in his and Straub’s heads. “Peter and I have started to talk about the third book in the cycle, so you know, we’ll see what happens, whether or not that’s there,” King says. “I think that he’s got some great ideas.”

Later in The Dark Tower books, Roland and his posse meet Dandelo, a creature who feeds on emotion, just like the fiend that manifested itself as Pennywise the Clown. Fans theorize they’re the same kind of monster, but King doesn’t go that far. “I would say that they were probably related just because they both came from my head,” he says. “But it wasn’t a conscious thing to say one was like the other.”

“A Excursão” (coletada na Skeleton Crew)

In The Dark Tower, some portals between worlds are technologically created, so producers of the movie asked King if they should follow the rules established by this 1981 short story. It’s about a mass-transit system that opens time/space portals, but if passengers go through awake they emerge insane on the other side. King’s response: Laughter. “If you’re mind’s going there, go with God,” he says. “I feel like that with most of this stuff.”

Para uma lista mais aprofundada de conexões, pode-se procurar no site do próprio King , que acrescenta vários outros conexões menores.

    
16.07.2016 / 07:43

Na verdade, a maioria das referências tendem a ir para o outro lado. Isso é; a série da Torre Negra contém muitas referências a outras obras do Rei, e não o contrário. King começou a ver a série como uma espécie de meta-história que servia para tecer todas as suas histórias juntas. "Existem outros mundos além destes", como disse Jake.

Livros escritos simultaneamente ou depois da série da Torre Negra, ocasionalmente, contêm alguns ovos de Páscoa. Se você quiser ver uma lista completa, incluindo referências maiores e menores, você pode olhar para este página da Wikipedia , mas contém grandes spoilers, então cuidado. Se você quer apenas os títulos de livros que estão strongmente conectados, aqui estão eles:

  • 'Salem's Lot
  • O suporte
  • O Talismã
  • A névoa
  • Os olhos do dragão
  • Insônia
  • Rose Madder
  • Desespero
  • Os reguladores
  • Sacola de Ossos
  • Corações na Atlântida
  • Casa Negra
  • Tudo é possível
  • De um Buick 8
  • Ur
13.06.2016 / 17:16

Se tomarmos a versão original desta questão literalmente - ou seja, referências a The Dark Tower em outros livros (isto é, um livro não-DT que menciona algo do DT, em vez de um DT livro que menciona algo de um livro não-DT) - a lista inclui o seguinte.

Livros que conheço:

  • Olhos do dragão

Although many of the references in EotD were only later inserted into DT, some elements were always intended to be nods to The Dark Tower. The sorcerer is Flagg, the kingdom is in Roland's world, the two boys who leave to pursue the sorcerer eventually found their way to Gilead, etc.

  • Insônia

The Crimson King makes his first appearance here; the protagonists see the Tower itself; a child draws pictures of the Tower and Roland.

  • Rose Madder

References to Lud, Ka, Mid-World, etc.

  • Corações na Atlântida

Flagg, Low Men, Breakers, etc

  • Casa Negra

Actually written as a pseudo-Tower book, with references to Breakers, Flagg, the Crimson King, gunslingers, Mid-World, Discordia, etc.

Outros livros:

Como regra geral, se um livro King é relacionado ao universo de Dark Tower (como a maioria de seus livros são) e foi escrito depois de meados dos anos 90, haverá pelo menos um ou duas referências explícitas a DT no livro. Antes de meados dos anos 90, as referências tendiam a seguir em outra direção, como explica a resposta de Roger.

    
13.06.2016 / 21:22

Acabei de ler em Wolves of the Calla

Father Callahan says he has thought about using the door (black 13, the door in the cave) to go back to 1963 and see if Lee Harvey Oswald worked alone.  They continue talking about wondering what would happen if the events from that day were changed...  11/22/63 was one of my all time favorite books, so it was an awesome reference to me!

    
16.04.2017 / 01:24