Como é que um “Deemed Dorthy”, para adquirir a grande palavra “Dawn”?

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Como é que um “Deemed Dorthy”, para adquirir a grande palavra “Dawn”?

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Ser Arthur Dayne was a knight of House Dayne who bore the title of "Sword of the Morning" as he possessed the ancestral sword of House Dayne, Dawn. He was also a member of the Kingsguard under King Aerys II Targaryen.

The Sword of the Morning is a title bestowed upon the knight of House Dayne that bears Dawn, the ancestral longsword of the family. The title is not hereditary, automatically passed down to the current head of House Dayne. Rather, the sword Dawn is only held by a member of House Dayne who is considered worthy of the honor, after displaying immense skill at swordsmanship. Sometimes the head of House Dayne wields Dawn, but in some generations of the family it is held by a younger brother or cousin. In some generations, no member of the family is allowed to wield the sword at all, because it is deemed that none have proven themselves worthy. When a current "Sword of the Morning" dies, he does not pass Dawn down to his own children: instead it is brought back to Starfall castle, to wait for a new "Sword of the Morning" to rise again (which may take generations).

According to George R.R. Martin, the sword Dawn remains at Starfall during the War of the Five Kings, because no new Sword of the Morning has yet risen since Arthur Dayne died.

Embora os livros entrem na ideia de que a Casa Dayne tenha / concedendo um pouco melhor à Grande Espada "Alvorada", o programa de TV ainda toca em Dawn, Arthur Dayne (Torre da Sequência da Alegria) e / ou o título: Sword of the Morning, mas nem os livros nem a série de TV parecem explicar quais são as condições ESPECÍFICAS para a passagem desta espada. Apenas para dizer que vai para um que é "considerado digno" dele.

Pergunta:

Mas quem especificamente em Starfall ou Members House Dayne consegue decidir o que "digno" significa, mas mais importante, quais são os critérios para o merecimento?

Para entender melhor a minha pergunta:

Estou interessado na filosofia e na metodologia da filosofia das interpretações de House Dayne para ajudar a determinar por que esse ritual foi preservado. Existe um conselho ou um título dado àqueles que decidem quem e talvez "quando" alguém é digno de Dawn? A magia (visões) em conjunção com a religião (uma crença em algum resultado desejado) é usada nessa determinação? Existe algum tipo de tentativa de "teste" ou "longo prazo" para o papel de Espada da Manhã (s) ?

Existe alguma instância específica que negligenciei ou exista em outros materiais de origem para entender melhor essas coisas. Qualquer ajuda seria muito apreciada, pois acredito que

R: Enriquece a história, adicionando à filosofia geral ASoIF / GOT. Isso também ajuda a estabelecer temas.

B: Melhora a mitologia / metafísica --- > Caminhantes Brancos, Ciclo Cosmologia, Reencarnação, Amanhecer Idade / Idade dos Heróis & Alegoria Bíblica: Espada da Manhã + Starfell + Dawn="Estrela da Manhã", O Amanhecer de uma Nova Era) e * poderia fornecer uma futura "reviravolta na história".

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por Darth Locke 06.03.2018 / 21:31

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Os membros da Casa Dayne decidem se alguém é digno.

Como Martin falou:

The same guy asked about the Daynes and the Sword of the Morning, asking how that title is decided. George said the Sword of the Morning is always a member of House Dayne, someone who is deemed worthy of wielding Dawn as decided within the House, that whoever it is would have to earn the right to wield it.
_{US Signing Tour (Albuquerque, NM), November 29, 2005 So Spake Martin - emphasis mine}

Desde que Arthur Dayne morreu durante a rebelião de Robert, ninguém foi considerado digno, então Dawn permanece sem uso.

The Daynes of Starfall are one of the most ancient houses in the Seven Kingdoms, though their fame largely rests on their ancestral sword, called Dawn, and the men who wielded it. Its origins are lost to legend, but it seems likely that the Daynes have carried it for thousands of years. Those who have had the honor of examining it say it looks like no Valyrian steel they know, being pale as milkglass but in all other respects it seems to share the properties of Valyrian blades, being incredibly strong and sharp.

Though many houses have their heirloom swords, they mostly pass the blades down from lord to lord. Some, such as the Corbrays have done, may lend the blade to a son or brother for his lifetime, only to have it return to the lord. But that is not the way of House Dayne. The wielder of Dawn is always given the title of Sword of the Morning, and only a knight of House Dayne who is deemed worthy can carry it.

For this reason, the Swords of the Morning are all famous throughout the Seven Kingdoms. There are boys who secretly dream of being a son of Starfall so they might claim that storied sword and its title. Most famous of all was Ser Arthur Dayne, the deadliest of King Aerys II's Kingsguard, who defeated the Kingswood Brotherhood and won renown in every tourney and mêlée. He died nobly with his sworn brothers at the end of Robert's Rebellion, after Lord Eddard Stark was said to have killed him in single combat. Lord Stark then returned Dawn to Starfall, and to Ser Arthur's kin, as a sign of respect.
_{The World of Ice and Fire - Dorne: The Andals Arrive}

Em uma festa para os corvos, um dos outros Daynes faz uma observação sobre Dawn:

Ser Gerold [Dayne] went to one knee. The moonlight shone in his dark eyes as he studied the child coolly.

"There was an Arthur Dayne," Myrcella said. "He was a knight of the Kingsguard in the days of Mad King Aerys."

"He was the Sword of the Morning. He is dead."

"Are you the Sword of the Morning now?"

"No. Men call me Darkstar, and I am of the night."

(...)

As she led the princess to the fire, Arianne found Ser Gerold behind her. "My House goes back ten thousand years, unto the dawn of days," he complained. "Why is it that my cousin is the only Dayne that anyone remembers?"

"He was a great knight," Ser Arys Oakheart put in.

"He had a great sword," Darkstar said.
_{The Queenmaker - a Feast for Crows}

06.03.2018 / 22:01

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Os membros da Casa Dayne decidem se alguém é digno.

Como Martin falou:

The same guy asked about the Daynes and the Sword of the Morning, asking how that title is decided. George said the Sword of the Morning is always a member of House Dayne, someone who is deemed worthy of wielding Dawn as decided within the House, that whoever it is would have to earn the right to wield it.
_{US Signing Tour (Albuquerque, NM), November 29, 2005 So Spake Martin - emphasis mine}

Desde que Arthur Dayne morreu durante a rebelião de Robert, ninguém foi considerado digno, então Dawn permanece sem uso.

The Daynes of Starfall are one of the most ancient houses in the Seven Kingdoms, though their fame largely rests on their ancestral sword, called Dawn, and the men who wielded it. Its origins are lost to legend, but it seems likely that the Daynes have carried it for thousands of years. Those who have had the honor of examining it say it looks like no Valyrian steel they know, being pale as milkglass but in all other respects it seems to share the properties of Valyrian blades, being incredibly strong and sharp.

Though many houses have their heirloom swords, they mostly pass the blades down from lord to lord. Some, such as the Corbrays have done, may lend the blade to a son or brother for his lifetime, only to have it return to the lord. But that is not the way of House Dayne. The wielder of Dawn is always given the title of Sword of the Morning, and only a knight of House Dayne who is deemed worthy can carry it.

For this reason, the Swords of the Morning are all famous throughout the Seven Kingdoms. There are boys who secretly dream of being a son of Starfall so they might claim that storied sword and its title. Most famous of all was Ser Arthur Dayne, the deadliest of King Aerys II's Kingsguard, who defeated the Kingswood Brotherhood and won renown in every tourney and mêlée. He died nobly with his sworn brothers at the end of Robert's Rebellion, after Lord Eddard Stark was said to have killed him in single combat. Lord Stark then returned Dawn to Starfall, and to Ser Arthur's kin, as a sign of respect.
_{The World of Ice and Fire - Dorne: The Andals Arrive}

Em uma festa para os corvos, um dos outros Daynes faz uma observação sobre Dawn:

Ser Gerold [Dayne] went to one knee. The moonlight shone in his dark eyes as he studied the child coolly.

"There was an Arthur Dayne," Myrcella said. "He was a knight of the Kingsguard in the days of Mad King Aerys."

"He was the Sword of the Morning. He is dead."

"Are you the Sword of the Morning now?"

"No. Men call me Darkstar, and I am of the night."

(...)

As she led the princess to the fire, Arianne found Ser Gerold behind her. "My House goes back ten thousand years, unto the dawn of days," he complained. "Why is it that my cousin is the only Dayne that anyone remembers?"

"He was a great knight," Ser Arys Oakheart put in.

"He had a great sword," Darkstar said.
_{The Queenmaker - a Feast for Crows}